More downwards movement was expected but did not happen.
Price moved mostly sideways in a small range to complete a green candlestick.
Summary: More downwards movement is still expected. The first invalidation point on the hourly chart is very close by at 2,083.74. The target for tomorrow is at 2,064. The wave count expects a third wave down is unfolding and in its very early stages, so expect any surprises to be to the downside.
To see how each of the bull and bear wave counts fit within a larger time frame see the Grand Supercycle Analysis.
To see last analysis of weekly and monthly charts go here.
If I was asked to pick a winner (which I am reluctant to do) I would say the bear wave count has a higher probability. It is better supported by regular technical analysis at the monthly chart level, it fits the Grand Supercycle analysis better, and it has overall the “right look”.
New updates to this analysis are in bold.
BULL ELLIOTT WAVE COUNT
DAILY CHART – COMBINATION OR FLAT
Cycle wave IV should exhibit alternation to cycle wave II.
Cycle wave II was a shallow 0.41 zigzag lasting three months. Cycle wave IV should exhibit alternation in structure and maybe also alternation in depth. Cycle wave IV may end when price comes to touch the lower edge of the teal channel which is drawn about super cycle wave V using Elliott’s technique (see this channel on weekly and monthly charts).
Cycle wave IV is may end within the price range of the fourth wave of one lesser degree. Because of the good Fibonacci ratio for primary wave 3 and the perfect subdivisions within it, I am confident that primary wave 4 has its range from 1,730 to 1,647.
If a zigzag is complete at the last major low as labelled, then cycle wave IV may be unfolding as a flat, combination or triangle.
Primary wave B or X upwards is a single zigzag. Upwards movement has reached above 2,108.44. Primary wave B has passed the minimum requirement for a flat correction of 90% the length of primary wave A, and so cycle wave IV may be unfolding as a flat correction.
Cycle wave IV may also still unfold as a combination: zigzag – X – flat. Both a flat or combination would provide alternation with the single zigzag of cycle wave II.
Primary wave B within a flat correction may make a new high above the start of primary wave A at 2,134.72 as in an expanded flat. There is no upper invalidation point for this wave count for that reason. Likewise, X waves within combinations may also move beyond the start of the first structure labelled primary wave W. There is no minimum or maximum length for an X wave within a combination.
At this stage, it is still possible that primary wave B or X could yet continue higher as a double zigzag. The possibility of more upwards movement must be accepted while there is not a clear five down on the hourly chart. So far downwards movement on the hourly chart is a series of overlapping first and second waves complete, and now a corresponding series of fourth and fifth waves are needed to complete an impulse to the downside on the hourly chart. While this is incomplete the possibility of a double zigzag moving price higher must be accepted to exist. The alternate hourly wave count looks at this idea.
DAILY CHART – TRIANGLE
Cycle wave IV may unfold as a shallow triangle. This would provide alternation with the 0.41 zigzag of cycle wave II.
Primary wave B may be unfolding as a zigzag.
Primary wave B may move beyond the start of primary wave A at 2,134.72 as in a running triangle. There is no upper invalidation point for this wave count for that reason.
Primary wave C of a barrier or contracting triangle may not move beyond the end of primary wave A at 1,871.91.
The whole structure moves sideways in an ever decreasing range. The purpose of triangles is to take up time and move price sideways.
The hourly charts below work in exactly the same way for both of these daily charts.
MAIN HOURLY CHART
An impulse for a minor degree first or A wave may be unfolding to the downside and the middle of its third wave may have passed during Monday’s session.
Subminuette wave iii is 1.19 points short of 1.618 the length of subminuette wave i. At 2,064 subminuette wave v would reach equality in length with subminuette wave i.
Subminuette wave iv may not move into subminuette wave i price territory above 2,083.74 when markets open tomorrow.
If this first lower invalidation point is breached early in tomorrow’s session, then labelling of subminuette wave iii must be moved down one degree. Downwards movement for Monday may have been only micro wave 1 within subminuette wave iii. The invalidation point would then be at 2,099.25. Price should find resistance again at the bright aqua blue trend line.
If price remains below 2,083.74 and moves lower, then the wave count will remain correct. The next fourth wave correction for minuette wave (iv) may not move into minuette wave (i) price territory above 2,090.41.
A channel drawn using Elliott’s first technique is not working for this possible impulse. Redraw the channel using Elliott’s second technique: the first trend line from the ends of the second and fourth waves, then a parallel copy on the end of the third wave. A stronger line of resistance in this instance may be the bright aqua blue trend line.
There is no room left for subminuette wave iv to move into. If this wave count is correct today at the hourly chart level, then price must move lower tomorrow.
Only if price moves above 2,099.25 should the alternate wave count below be used.
Today I have tried to see if minuette wave (iii) may actually be over and upwards movement for Tuesday may be minuette wave (iv). It is possible but only with a truncation. The truncation reduces the probability of this idea, so I am choosing to not chart it due to a low probability.
ALTERNATE HOURLY CHART
The zigzag labelled intermediate wave (W) may have been only the first zigzag within a double. The double may be joined by a completed “three”, a complete double zigzag in the opposite direction.
The multiple would be very unlikely to be a combination. Their X waves are normally much deeper as they have a sideways form. Double zigzags are different. They should have a clear slope against the trend one degree higher, so their X waves are normally relatively quick and shallow.
This means that intermediate wave (Y) should be a zigzag. Within intermediate wave (Y), minor wave B to unfold may not move beyond the start of minor wave A below 2,068.24.
Within multiples the sub waves of W, Y and Z (if there is one) may only themselves subdivide as simple A-B-C (or A-B-C-D-E in the case of triangles) corrective structures. This is because the maximum number of corrective structures within a multiple is three. To label W, Y and Z as multiples themselves violates the rule as it increases the maximum beyond three. However, X waves are not counted as a corrective structure within a multiple because they are joining structures. They may be any corrective structure.
Within double zigzags, the second zigzag does not normally exhibit a Fibonacci ratio to the first. The only way to calculate a target for a second zigzag to end within a double is to use the ratio of the A and C waves within it. This can only be done when A and B are complete and the beginning of C is known.
ALTERNATE BULL ELLIOTT WAVE COUNT
DAILY CHART
It is possible to see cycle wave IV a completed flat correction. This would provide some structural alternation with the zigzag of cycle wave II.
This is a regular flat but does not have a normal regular flat look. Primary wave C is too long in relation to primary wave A. Primary wave C would be 3.84 short of 4.236 the length of primary wave A. While it is possible to also see cycle wave IV as a complete zigzag (the subdivisions for that idea would be labelled the same as the bear wave count below, daily chart) that would not provide structural alternation with the zigzag of cycle wave II, and so I am not considering it.
This idea requires not only a new high but that the new high must come with a clear five upwards, not a three.
At 2,562 cycle wave V would reach equality in length with cycle wave I. Cycle wave I was just over one year in duration so cycle wave V should be expected to also reach equality in duration. Cycle degree waves should be expected to last about one to several years, so this expectation is reasonable. It would be extremely unlikely for this idea that cycle wave V was close to completion, because it has not lasted nearly long enough for a cycle degree wave.
I added a bear market trend line drawn using the approach outlined by Magee in “Technical Analysis of Stock Trends”. When this lilac line is clearly breached by upwards movement that shall confirm a trend change from bear to bull. The breach must be by a close of 3% or more of market value. If it comes with a clear five up, then this wave count would be further confirmed.
While price remains below the bear market trend line, we should assume the trend remains the same: downwards.
Minor wave 3 should be complete. Minor wave 4 may not move into minor wave 1 price territory below 2,020.13.
BEAR ELLIOTT WAVE COUNT
DAILY CHART
This bear wave count has a better fit at Grand Super Cycle degree and is better supported by regular technical analysis at the monthly chart level. But it is a huge call to make, so I present it second, after a more bullish wave count, and until all other options have been eliminated.
There are two ideas presented in this chart: a huge flat correction or a double flat / double combination. The huge flat is more likely. They more commonly have deep B waves than combinations have deep X waves (in my experience).
A huge flat correction would be labelled super cycle (a)-(b)-(c). It now expects a huge super cycle wave (c) to move substantially below the end of (a) at 666.79. C waves can behave like third waves. This idea expects a devastating bear market, and a huge crash to be much bigger than the last two bear markets on the monthly bear chart.
The second idea is a combination which would be labelled super cycle (w)-(x)-(y). The second structure for super cycle wave (y) would be a huge sideways repeat of super cycle wave (a) for a double flat, or a quicker zigzag for a double combination. It is also possible (least likely) that price could drift sideways in big movements for over 10 years for a huge triangle for super cycle wave (y).
The bear wave count sees a leading diagonal for a primary degree first wave unfolding. Within leading diagonals, the first, third and fifth waves are most commonly zigzags but sometimes may appear to be impulses. Here intermediate wave (1) is seen as a complete zigzag.
Intermediate wave (2) may not move beyond the start of intermediate wave (1) above 2,134.72.
Intermediate wave (3) should unfold downwards when intermediate wave (2) is complete. It must move beyond the end of intermediate wave (1) and it would most likely be a zigzag.
HOURLY CHART
The zigzag upwards for intermediate wave (2) is seen in exactly the same way as the zigzag upwards for primary wave B or X for the first two wave counts. The degree of labelling for this idea is one degree lower.
Intermediate wave (3) is most likely to be a zigzag, if this is a third wave within a leading diagonal. It must move beyond the end of intermediate wave (1) at 1,871.91. It is likely to move reasonably below that point.
Actionary waves within diagonals do not normally exhibit Fibonacci ratios to each other. The best target calculation method for intermediate wave (3) would be to use the ratios of minor waves A and C within it. That can only be done when minor waves A and B are complete, so that the length of minor wave A is known and the start of minor wave C is known.
TECHNICAL ANALYSIS
Click chart to enlarge. Chart courtesy of StockCharts.com.
Daily: A further decline in volume is not concerning today because it comes with a green candlestick. Price may be finding support about the 200 day moving average.
Overall, volume declined as price moved higher and Average True Range declined while price moved higher. This is more indicative of a correction and not a trend. The prior upwards wave looks weak.
There is a bearish engulfing candlestick pattern at the last high. The real body of the red daily candlestick of 4th November fully engulfs the prior day of 3rd November candlestick’s real body. At the end of an upwards trend, this is a bearish reversal signal. The pattern is also seen at the high on the hourly chart. This supports the wave count which expects a high is in place.
ADX no longer indicates an upwards trend is in place. The black ADX line is declining.
On Balance Volume is a leading indicator. A longer held trend line on OBV has just been breached to the downside. This green trend line is long held, repeatedly tested, very shallow and it is highly technically significant. The breach of that line is a reasonably strong bearish signal. OBV is turning upwards and may find resistance now at the green trend line. This may assist to indicate when price may complete any further upwards movement.
A note on Dow Theory: for the bear wave count I would wait for Dow Theory to confirm a huge market crash. So far the industrials and the transportation indices have made new major swing lows, but the S&P500 and Nasdaq have not.
S&P500: 1,820.66
Nasdaq: 4,116.60
DJT: 7,700.49 – this price point was breached.
DJIA: 15,855.12 – this price point was breached.
To the upside, for Dow Theory, I am watching each index carefully. If any make new all time highs, that will be noted. If they all make new all time highs, then a continuation of a bull market would be confirmed. So far none have made new all time highs.
This analysis is published about 07:58 p.m. EST.
Hi
Again All,
How many days can an elliot wave target last? For example: We all want to see 2063-4 but at what point do we move the target? I am still learning so much and need to understand.
The wave count was invalidated by upwards movement and so the target is no longer applicable.
A target lasts until it’s reached, or the wave count is invalidated.
Sometimes as structure unfolds targets may be recalculated. When there is more structure targets can be calculated are more wave degrees. So sometimes they change.
Hi
Lara,
Thanks. So, we are heading higher on the SPX now? What if we continue lower for the next 5 days.
Do you see the head and shoulders on the daily? The target is 2000-1991? Does that look right to you?
In all your years of experience how long can this narrow leadership of the 8 mega big stocks
FANG
and a hand full of other TECH companies keep the INDEX at all time highs?
Does this look like 1998 to you from a chart perspective?
Lets see the SPX cash close. The intraday price action has been just outstanding for the 6 YEAR Aging bull market!
Key level is now 200 day MA. IF the bearish wave count is correct, we should convincingly take it out today. Looks like the impending Draghi chat not having the desired effect.
ES hourly
As of 1:55 PM Euro time Testing the red channel top …..hope it holds…..Yellow line is 2086.75
As of yesterdays close SPX back tested the blue channel line after finding support at the black S/R line
Hourly bottomed out and is heading up Daily heading down……….
So, net result down on the cash index right?
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are able to hold this market up. How many more months can this go on technically?
Today:
Oil crashing -3.5%
Major companies such as Macy -14%
Do you guys think that we could make ALL TIME HIGHS on the S&P in December 2015? All these technicals are working and then just fall apart half way through a setup(Rising Wedge on the Daily SPX Cash, Head and Shoulders on Small time frame?). Nothing technical seems to be working now?